194. Gortman64Subject: Unpatriotic Draftdogers
Posted By: Gortman64, on host 24.205.86.60 Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 08:57:32 I suggested the current poll question. I expected about at least 50 percent of the people to have enlisted or been drafted. I was *extremely* surprised when I saw 60% had never joined because they didn't want to. I myself plan to join the Marines or Army, and my father was two months away from Vietnam. I was just wondering why some of you people weren't interested. Was it a personal situation or was it you did't want any personal risk? By the way, I didn't mean the title, that was just to catch you're attention. Subject: Re: career choices Posted By: Gortman64, on host 24.205.86.60 Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 13:02:21 In Reply To: Re: career choices posted by Faux Pas on Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 09:20:54: > The same reason we don't want to be interior decorators, the guys who > change the winning jackpot prize numbers on the billboards, or beet > farmers. None of these professions appeal to us. > > I think the real question is why doesn't Gortman64 want to be a fish > bait salesman? A personal situation or do you just not like worms? > > -FP As a matter of fact, last year I ate 5 worms on a dare. A buck a worm. So I do not have a psycological problem with worms. Subject: Re: career choices Posted By: Gortman64, on host 24.205.86.60 Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 20:42:01 In Reply To: Re: career choices posted by Faux Pas on Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 09:20:54: > The same reason we don't want to be interior decorators, the guys who > change the winning jackpot prize numbers on the billboards, or beet > farmers. None of these professions appeal to us. > > I think the real question is why doesn't Gortman64 want to be a fish > bait salesman? A personal situation or do you just not like worms? > > -FP It is every mans' duty to serve his country. My pops went, and was two months away from Vietnam. He served his country. Frankly, I think every able-bodied American man, and every able-bodied, single, American, woman(unless she has a worried pop) should enlist, or if he is drafted, he should go willingly. Not only is it his duty, but will benifit(spl) him in many ways; he will gain discipline, become pysically stronger, and be able to endure harsh mental conditions. So one may consider an able-bodied American man that does not join any branch of the Armed Forces a draftdodger, even though technically, he is not dodging the draft. Subject: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdogers Posted By: Gortman64, on host 24.205.79.56 Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 20:56:56 In Reply To: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdogers posted by Nyperold on Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 17:13:31: OK, a pysoclogical problem with killing another man is perfectly normal and understanding. If you are a pacifist, you vould become a medic. I don't mean a doctor, I mean the guy that crawls out into the field and drags the injured guy's body back to the doctor. My father isn't a pacifist, and if he was an infantryman and had gone to Vietnam, I"m sure he would have shot an enemy if he had to. He was a medic because he wan't exactly Silvester Sylone. Well, anyways, if oyu are a pacifist you could become a Coreman(I'm not sure what its called in the Army). Subject: Re: career choices Posted By: Gortman64, on host 24.205.79.56 Date: Thursday, July 4, 2002, at 10:37:46 In Reply To: Re: career choices posted by TBG on Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 21:36:14: I am not saying the government should pycically enforce this and shoot able bodied men that don't join up. I said every able-bodied man *should* join, not every able bodied man *should be forced at gunpoint* to join. If you are a Pacifist, you could go serve your country in other ways, or become a medic or intelligance. Able bodied *also* means pyscologically able. I am glad to hear you hold nothing against me, I thought I had made a few enemies. Subject: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdogers Posted By: Gortman64, on host 24.205.79.56 Date: Thursday, July 4, 2002, at 13:32:56 In Reply To: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdogers posted by Wes on Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 21:13:43: > > I'm not saying I would serve my country better as a grunt. I am going to > > join the Army because it is every mans' duty to serve his country. I am > > going to serve my country in many ways. The military is one. Paying taxes > > is another. Teaching college students is another way. I still think that > > every able man should join the Armed Forces. After he has served for two > > years how ever long he choose to serve, he should go find a proffesion to > > serve his country, like a buisness man, or a teacher, or a farmer, or > > whatever. Almost every job benefits the country one way or another. So > > I still say every able-bodied man should join some branch of the military > > before settling down and having a set proffession. > > Why? There are many reasons. To prove that you are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the protection of your country, to protect your country, so we have a disciplined society. There are many reasons. Subject: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdogers Posted By: Gortman64, on host 24.205.79.56 Date: Friday, July 5, 2002, at 09:50:04 In Reply To: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdogers posted by Dave on Friday, July 5, 2002, at 07:34:43: > > *Pointlessly* dying for your country will not > > benefit it. Sneaking deep into enemy territory and > > sabotaging a biological weapons factory sacrificing > > yourself for your country, will benefit it. Have you > > seen Air Force One? (The movie). The president is > > going to get killed, but the pilot sacrifices > > himself and flies his plane into the course of the > > missle. In a similar situation, sacrificing yourself > > *does* benefit your country. > > This is the second time you've mentioned a movie or television show in > support of your ideas. And yet you vehemently denied it when Brunnen-G > suggested maybe you have too rosy a picture of military service from your > years of watching action movies. Huh. > > Perhaps a quote from Patton (the man *and* the movie) will help. "The > object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other poor > bastard die for his." > > -- Dave I am using the movie as a mere example. A do not have a rosy picture or a hero's life in the military. If a similar situation should arise, dying for your country and saving someone of much more importance *would* benefit the country. If while making the other poor bastard die, he does something that is going to make the 5 Star General bastard or the Secretary of State bastard die, sacrificing yourself to save him will help. Subject: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdogers Posted By: Gortman64, on host 24.205.79.56 Date: Friday, July 5, 2002, at 13:23:55 In Reply To: Re: Unpatriotic Draftdogers posted by Kelly on Friday, July 5, 2002, at 13:01:25: > > > And just HOW many people die sacrificing themselves to save the > > > President, General, etc.? > > > > I don't know, but if the situation arose, a patriotic brave souled > > soldier (which I seem to find very few on this board, or even future > > soldiers) would protect him with his life. > > > > -Gort "Future Grunt" Man64 > > ... > > You still have never addressed the numerous posts asking you WHY you feel > that every able bodied man and woman (with a few exceptions) should be > required to join the military. > > Kel"yep...still lurking around"ly One average man is a small price to pay to keep the leader of the free world alive. |
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